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Quantum Immortality: Does Quantum Physics Imply You Are Immortal?

1/29/2016

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by Alex Vikoulov
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"Perhaps Nature is our best assurance of immortality."  -Eleanor Roosevelt

When we're watching an action movie, we might think that we're watching main characters through a bunch of explosions to an improbable happy ending, but it's just as accurate to say that we're watching the 'Quantum Immortality Hypothesis' illustrated over and over again.

In his book "Divided by Infinity," Robert Charles Wilson makes a clever twist to introduce the concept of Quantum Immortality by mentioning a fictional book by Carl G. Soziere "You Will Never Die," essentially describing a forthright implication of quantum physics -- the 'Quantum Multiverse": "Consciousness, like matter, like energy, is preserved. You are born, not an individual, but an infinity of individuals, in an infinity of identical worlds. “Consciousness,” your individual awareness, is shared by this infinity of beings. At birth, this span of selves begins to divide, as alternate possibilities are indulged or rejected. The infant turns his head not to the left or to the right, but both. One infinity of worlds becomes two; then four; then eight, and so on, exponentially. But the underlying essence of consciousness continues to connect all these disparate possibilities."*
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So Carl Soziere says it all in his book's title. YOU CANNOT DIE! A thought experiment called the 'Quantum Suicide' is a tweaked version of the Schrödinger's cat experiment which is performed on hypothetical self with a hypothetical self-terminating device such as a gun. When pointed to self the weapon is either deployed, killing the experimenter, or it makes an audible "click" and the experimenter survives. Oddly enough and subjectively speaking, you would survive any streak of shots.

As MIT astrophysicist Max Tegmark points out, macro objects display quantum properties of micro objects such as wavefunction, only from our perspective it's nearly impossible to observe. The Quantum Immortality hypothesis also implies that from your subjective perspective you can expect to live the LONGEST POSSIBLE LIFESPAN. Any time you "die" for external observers, your consciousness actually "migrates" to your other living conscious self in alternate reality.

This concept is brilliantly depicted in the movie "Mr. Nobody" in which an old man is about to turn 118 and in his last days as "the last mortal" on this Earth tries to remember under hypnosis his "multiple" lives. When he finally dies and upon his last breath, the time miraculously starts to move backwards and his whole life is "rewinded" back to his first breath.

One might make a logical conclusion that out of trillions of all possible lives you are set to live the longest until death is the only option. At your last heartbeat all other potential lives, where you had died "before," rendered non-existent and only the longest one becomes realized. At that tipping point you either: (1) are transported back in time to your birth, basically reincarnating to yourself (Mr. Nobody scenario / Friedrich Nietzsche's "Eternal Recurrence"); 
or (2) switch the dimensionality of your consciousness since the stream of consciousness must continue to flow.

One could further argue that the latter occurrence may be more conducive to evolution of your core self, "non-local" consciousness instantiated into the phenomenal mind for the duration of a lifetime. I don't want to entertain the idea that your consciousness ceases to exist with your last heartbeat because if you exist NOW, you ALWAYS will in some form in this eternal NOW, as NOW is the only time there is. Since NOW is ever-present from your experiential point of view and eternal from the modern physics perspective, your existence cannot turn into non-existence.


​I also don’t really buy Tegmark’s argument that aging and death represent a gradual degradation of consciousness, such that you’re not really conscious anymore when the end comes. But then, that’s exactly what I would expect the prodigious Max Tegmark to say in my immortal, experiential branch of the wave function. In the branch where I’m immortal, everybody else sees their consciousness degrade with time, but I keep on going, through a remarkable and almost always highly improbable chain of quantum coincidences.

But is there any way to empirically prove the Quantum Immortality hypothesis? Actually, there may be one. No, I'm not going to advise you to replicate the Quantum Suicide at home, but pay attention to this: If, against all odds, you find yourself the oldest person on the planet, just like Nemo Nobody did in the Mr.Nobody, or amazingly enough, human immortality had become commonplace due to "immortality technologies" such as advanced genetic engineering, nanotechnologies and mind-uploading leading to cybernetic immortality (that's where we are headed in actuality), then you can be convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are, in fact, subjectively immortal.

What other ramifications to follow? Your subjective quantum immortality coupled with soon-to-be discovered indefinite life extension at the civilizational level would spell out that YOU ARE ACTUALLY TO LIVE FOREVER through a series of ensuing "self-transcendence" events! One can also see a viable resolution to the so-called 'Mind-uploading', or Star Trek 'Teleporter dilemma', questioning whether in those instances you create a copy of yourself but kill yourself in the process. By analogy to the previous deliberations, it follows that your consciousness, as informational pattern of the mind, has to "migrate" to your living self, thus making the case for successful consciousness transfer in both methods of disembodiment.

On this note, my friend, I'd like to conclude and profess that you are to live forever as an individuated evolving phenomenal mind in this illusory Matrix-like universe where nothing is what it seems.*

-Alex Vikoulov, futurist, evolutionary cyberneticist, philosopher of mind, essayist, media commentator, author of "The Syntellect Hypothesis: Five Paradigms of the Mind's Evolution," "The Origins of Us: Evolutionary Emergence and The Omega Point Cosmology," "The Physics of Time: D-Theory of Time & Temporal Mechanics," "The Intelligence Supernova: Essays on Cybernetic Transhumanism, The Simulation Singularity & The Syntellect Emergence." Lives is San Francisco Bay Area. More Bio...

​*Abridged excerpt from  
"The Syntellect Hypothesis: 
Five Paradigms of the Mind's Evolution"
by Alex M. Vikoulov 
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​and directly from EcstadelicNET webstore.

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17 Comments
Mike Mosher
1/29/2016 01:31:07 pm

Thus the premise "All Realities Valid", a concept I conceived in 1966 at age 12. All is all that was and is to be.

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Francisco
1/29/2016 01:40:12 pm

Great post and I wish it was true but I'm afraid it's not.

Nowadays, there is too much buzz words about quantum, using the "multi-universe" theory trying to explain that there is infinitive universes. For example, the article says: "At birth, this span of selves begins to divide, as alternate possibilities are indulged or rejected. The infant turns his head not to the left or to the right, but both. One infinity of worlds becomes two; then four; then eight, and so on, exponentially.".

HOWEVER, these quantum phenomenons are happening in an atomic level (when we try to observe it), but not in a macro level (where everything is fully deterministic -- otherwise we won't have any chance of launching a rocket from Earth and making it landing on Mars).

Another thing is that our conciseness would be determined at an atomic level in our brains. But I don't think so because, in this case, when we take some pill (as an anxiolytic), the effect wouldn't be determined (as it is in reality).

Therefore, I think these quantum-related theories about immortality (and other really nice things that I would love to believe) need some more fundament. Sometime I feel like we are trying to explain the world that we would love to have with things that we don't really understand. We should try to avoid making a new nice-to-believe "religion" out of pseudo science.

In any case, I really enjoyed reading the article.

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Mark
1/30/2016 08:59:27 am

That's my understanding as well, but I wonder--if you imagine a scenario in which you allow for the realization of every possible combination of all the possible states, at every time (assuming time exists), of all subatomic particles in a universe (or multiverse), then every possible macro state would also occur.

Alternatively, if there are selection processes (universal constants, etc.) that massively winnow the number of manifested macro states down from the theoretical set, we'd want to know what those selectors are.

The proposition of this post appears to be that Consciousness is a/the primary selector. That would seem to put Consciousness outside the system we're referring to, which creates an infinite regression issue.

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Fractal
2/1/2016 12:12:57 am

I totally see where you guys are coming from, but I don't think it is impossible, I I'm curious to think that possibly our interpretations of a macro and micro realm only exist from our current perspective to each of them, kind of like the possible perspective of a single celled organism inside the stomach of a larger organism , imagine if the technology we use was available for then what their perspective of the macro and micro would look like, just a thought externally and not throwing out this for the sake of arguing but just end of our ignorance to think we need things when we really like any knowledge it all for the most part, also have you ever noticed how things outside of life evolve just as much as life itself through complexities, kind of like how are athletic in algebra and geometry and all the separate the subjects in math all kind of grow in complexity and dimensional properties, levels of awareness consciousness ego and all that seem to grow just as a single cell organism would graduate multicellular organism to a organism made up of multiple multi cellular organisms to even like planea solar system to a galaxy then who knows where it goes from there

Edward
2/3/2016 08:57:50 am

Francisco - Aren't all decisions ultimately made at the quantum level (i.e. electrical activity occurring in the Microtubules of the brain)? Therefore the macro outcomes are consequences of that quantum information processing.

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Paul Frenger
3/13/2016 09:33:11 pm

Great comment, one thing left out. Universes split at Schrodinger decision points, but later rejoin. Some threads last longer than others before fusing with the main timeline. Thus the number of universes does not grow forever. Indeed, the number of fragmentary universal threads are limited to a factor of 5.5 compared to the main thread (this is the ratio of dark matter to "real" matter). Dark matter is the gravitational effect of alternate threads of matter on us. You can change timelines in under 200 msec. Your mind can't return to a timeline where you died, however. If you die often enough, your life will become further and further from its original vector ... for example, you experience Donald Trump running for president.

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Vincent Palmer
9/23/2016 09:00:38 pm

Paul Frenger can you recommend an online reference to your interesting theories. Thanks

DAVID A BAINES
8/20/2016 04:15:26 am

Francisco you seem to deride these quantum phenomenons, and yet you say in conclusion ... "that I would love to believe".

You must be aware that change is a constant in this lifetime. I am currently building Quantum plasma devices, that when each one is commissioned and fed into either 110v / 240v grid system you can touch ALL the copper wires on the powered up device and never get an electrical shock - and yet the same devices power any and all domestic appliances and if installed into a car will transform the ignition reducing fuel consumption.

The key to truly understanding Quantum fields is GOOD INTENTIONS.

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hypnotic
1/31/2016 11:43:57 pm

Consciousness is not a gift, it's a loan. The only correct thing in this article is that "nothing is what it seems". If you spend your life just satisfying your ego, enjoying simple things in life, etc..and not exploring your inner self, expanding consciousness/perception, fixing damages made to you by society since the day you were born, none quantum theory will save you :) What will happen at the "end", depends on what you've done with yourself during life. If you lived like a pig, you will die like a pig..if you lived as a warrior, and dealt with important matters that i already mentioned, you have a chance to preserve your consciousness and carry on.
But no, when you die, your consciousness won't "migrate" to your other living concious self in alternate reality.", those are stories for children..especially not if you die as an "average" human being.. The Force we are all made of, and that we all come from, "makes living" out of our consciousness ie. experiences during our lifetimes. It is food to that Force. At the final moment, all your experiences/consciousness will be sucked up, eaten, and you will "continue" in a dreamstate, realizing all your dreams and fears that you had during your lifetime...after a while, it will all start to fade, until you fall in a big black nothing. Every night you go to sleep, you actually die, but you wake up in the morning because your body is still alive. So when you die, it's pretty much the same, except for the awakening part :) but you get the picture...it's a dream.

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Leuthold Srisuwan
2/1/2016 09:15:07 pm

Very nice

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Jared link
4/16/2017 03:06:29 am

The crucial question here is, who am "I" in an "almost indefinite" number of universes separated by wave function reductions: If, for instance, in several other universes "I" had been raised by other parents because my biological parents died in an accident shortly after my birth, if almost the entirety of people I met and I learnt from were different, if I would have had mastered several personal problems I'm fighting with in this universe, but wouldn't have overcome others, which my actual "I" did solve, then my conscience in other universes would be extremely different from my actual one - I would be a completely other person. This goes down to the inherence of other genes because "crossing over" of the chromosoms of my parents on pocreation brings different results in different universes. Thus, what resembles "me" in other universes are in fact complete strangers. There's no way to merge consciences when they are not mergeable within this universe between, let's say, homocygote twins.

BTW: The image of conciousness as an unchangeable, personalized essence, such as the christian "soul", is almost surely false. Matter and energy, the other preserved entities, are not at all individual, can change, merge and divide in a lot of ways well described by Feynman diagrams. And, most beating argument, if consciousness was eternal and individual, where was mine before I was born??

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Kevin Bond
11/7/2017 12:19:06 am

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Igor
3/21/2018 02:01:05 pm

It is a cool set of assertions with no reasoning presented.
“Consciousness stream” consumes reality experience and cannot “drink” another reality in parallel, as we can see.
In addition, if we are talking that preserving consciousness is enough to preserve personality, I would remind that consciousness is a small part of the brain that even does not make decisions most of the times. Decisions are mostly done in subconsciousness that is programmed by a lot of things, mainly the DNA and the life experience.
If we get back to quantum laws, we can see that an electron can be in many places (as a probability wave) only until it is observed. Then it reveals itself in a certain position, not in many positions at the same time.
So I would not recommend anyone to believe they will stay alive after shooting their head.

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Kevin Bond
3/21/2018 03:14:00 pm

Look, your pholosophizing cannot make you Immortal, only my Discovery can.

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Kevin Bond The Cancer Killer
10/18/2018 03:05:04 am

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John Logger link
11/8/2019 05:36:11 am

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